tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post4834278442667893919..comments2023-05-17T08:46:15.823-05:00Comments on Students for Environmental Action, a collective blog: Your Diet and the EnvironmentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post-69937458992459454042007-09-13T21:19:00.000-05:002007-09-13T21:19:00.000-05:00oddly enough-I had no problem being a vegetarian w...oddly enough-I had no problem being a vegetarian when I didn't live at home. I didn't buy meat, or crave it, but now that I moved back home, when my dad makes a meal with meat (usally once a week, I have been urging him to cook more veg) I can't help but eat it. no excuses. its the start of the new year (Happy Rosh Ha-Shana everyone!) and I am using this time of reflection and aiming for a more consistent vegetarian diet this year. the transition to vegan will have to start a little later. I admire it-this is why we need to have our dinners at quorum, to share ideas on how to make lots of different foods sans dairy.Hannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17695708602318410371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post-66523893107226597082007-09-12T17:27:00.000-05:002007-09-12T17:27:00.000-05:00way to stay a strong vegetarian around your peers-...way to stay a strong vegetarian around your peers-do they understand your reasoning? I assume most people stop listening as soon as they feel threatened. well that was the point of the study-these are numbers based on what is performed the majority of the time-livestock that isn't raised in a sustainable manner. most the restaurants/homes in downtown new york can't buy meat that is raised within probably hundreds of miles of where they live. if all urban populations switched to a vegan diet, that would be great-any thoughts on how we could do this? :)Hannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17695708602318410371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post-43343977154169419422007-09-12T10:30:00.000-05:002007-09-12T10:30:00.000-05:00On the topic of eliminating jobs, I am constantly ...On the topic of eliminating jobs, I am constantly surrounded by Agronomy students whose way of life I am challenging with my vegetarian diet. Instead of viewing it as an upheaval of livestock production, I tell people that I'm merely trying to support environmentally friendly practices and that I will eat meat if is raised in a friendly manner. By taking this stance, I'm (theoretically) making is economically feasible for farmers to shift away from intensive CFO's (and maybe corn too!). Though this is a less threatening stance to the farmer, their response is usually something along the lines of "well, we've always done it this way so that'll never happen" but I suppose that's getting into another issue altogether.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post-18380958675438063002007-09-12T08:15:00.000-05:002007-09-12T08:15:00.000-05:00I agree that these numbers seem arguable. I unders...I agree that these numbers seem arguable. I understand that it's inefficient to raise livestock on grain for consumption rather than consuming the grain directly, but what about livestock raised using sustainable grazing on native grass pastures?<BR/><BR/>I think the number of animals raised and slaughtered for human consumption would have to be reduced to be sustainable, but locally raised animals managed through sustainable practices can't be such an enormous contributor relative to a vegan diet.<BR/><BR/>However, it is interesting to study the difference between traditional red meat consumption and veganism. Thanks for posting the article. :)<BR/><BR/>I just used "consumption" so many times I feel like an eighteenth century English physician.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00776826581960027233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post-12801842568310661012007-09-11T21:14:00.000-05:002007-09-11T21:14:00.000-05:00andrew, i believe the energy it took to grow, harv...andrew, i believe the energy it took to grow, harvest and transport was all in regards to the raising of cattle/chicken and fish. the article later points out that by merely eating the grain, and cutting out the cow/chicken eating the grain, we reduce the amount of energy used-eating at a lower level of the food chain. <BR/>if vegans ate nothing, the population problem would cease to be one, and kucinich would be slowly deteriorating.-hannahHannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17695708602318410371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post-70613338494815671092007-09-11T14:44:00.000-05:002007-09-11T14:44:00.000-05:00Why is it that a vegan diet has 0 tons/year when t...Why is it that a vegan diet has 0 tons/year when the value includes the energy it took to grow, harvest, transport, and prepare them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6540778513346034927.post-29473199408781472692007-09-11T00:33:00.000-05:002007-09-11T00:33:00.000-05:00I definitely thought about the local meat aspect a...I definitely thought about the local meat aspect and how those numbers would change. Seeing those numbers, and an aspiring environmentalist declares "I am a vegan!", but I couldn't get the image out of my head of that small farm and those people out there that still keep things local and raise animals ethically. completely taking meat/eggs/milk out from everyone's diet (hypothetically) and a lot of people's way of life and job is over.Hannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17695708602318410371noreply@blogger.com